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Home > Common Pitching Questions > Can the ball be above the shoulder?

Can the ball be above the shoulder?

March 29, 2013 By Sal Guerriero

If you bend over at the waist it is possible for the ball to above the shoulder as shown in the images. However, you will note that the angle created by the hip -shoulder-ball does not exceed a right angle. An angle greater than a right angle is not allowed in most Pennsylvania ASA 10 Man Leagues and all Pa ASA Tournaments.

Can the ball be above the shoulder?

However, the following pictures show how pitchers bring their arm out to the side (abduction) and turn their pitching shoulder towards second base. This allows a greater back swing (without the ball being visibly outside the wrist) and consequently, a lot more speed. Any windmill pitcher can learn this in 5 minutes or less and dominate a game. This is not the intent of 10 Man Modified. That is why we have eliminated this loophole in the ASA rules in Pennsylvania. We do not mind if you bring the arm out to the side (abduct), but keep it less that a right angle (hip-shoulder-ball). Since 99% of these pitchers stand erect, if they bring it above their shoulder it is illegal.

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About Sal Guerriero

I started pitching “Medium” pitch softball, or what the ASA calls 10 Man Modified, on Staten Island, NY in the New York City Park League as a teenager back in the 60’s. I have now been pitching for 50 years and still have a passion for the game.
When it comes to the pitching rules there are very few others that have my experience. I have been used at Umpire clinics, clarified the Pa. ASA pitching rules, and presented to the National ASA Modified Committee on several occasions.
My goal is to preserve and promote the traditional style of Softball regardless if it is ASA or not. If you have a League or Tournament (strict 10 Man pitching rules as described here) you want displayed on this site, let me know and I will add it. Read more about this site...

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